The Paul "I'm gonna take ya' guns you filthy monkeys" Thread

[13511]

And just a classic example of the "intelligence" of your average grun grabber.

[13511]

LOL, are you upset that someone wants you to keep a group of people in your thoughts, Sheldon?

 

It does some good. I won’t knowing buy anything made by Nestle because they are a shit company (just in general) that still does business in Russia. People like Sting, David Gilmour, etc. have the right to voice their opinions on the war and remind us of what’s going on.

Which does more good... doing a "feel good" song and/or empty platitudes?

 

Or shipping them actual armament (guns/missiles/bombs) to protect themself against aggression?

Think sitting in a circle singing "Kumbaya" is going to prevent their attackers from invading/attacking/raping their peoples?

 

How many people do you actually think will be "not buying anything made by Nestle"? Most people pay ZERO attention to "protest songs" now days, and if they do pay any attention to them, it's only for a VERY short time until they need something that the protested party provides... then they "conveniently" forget their protest. We've seen it time and time again in modern society.

 

 

As for the supposition that the 2nd Amendment was only good for "the old days in the revolution" that many of your ilk try to make and that afterwards that there was no need to "defend against the government excesses/violence" or overall oppression, I'll leave you with a few names.

Bear River Massacre

Sand Creek

Marias Massacre

Wounded Knee

"Battle" of Bad Axe

Red Fork of the Colorado River

Kern & Sutter Massacres

"Battle" of Fort Utah

Bloody Island Massacre

Bridge Gulch Massacre

Skeleton Cave Massacre

Sappa Creek Massacre

Buffalo Gap Massacre

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[Paul]

I don't necessarily like "empty" shit.

Which does more good... doing a "feel good" song and/or empty platitudes?

LOL, Both Sting and David Gilmour have donated millions of dollars of their own money to causes they believe in. My wife and I give money to charities we believe in and we have given money to Ukrainian charities.

How many people do you actually think will be "not buying anything made by Nestle"?

Nestle is being boycotted by a lot of people for a lot of different reasons, they're really a shit company and I would avoid their products even if they stopped doing business in Russia.

I'll leave you with a few names.

Did any of that happen in the 20th century?

[Sheldon]

Did I say anything about monetary donations?

 

I stated dedicating a song. Jesus. Read.

 

Song dedications do so much to help the people.

[Paul]

@Sheldon and [uSER=21]@tracy perry[/uSER] would either of you purchase products or services from companies that support stronger gun control laws?

[Paul]

Did I say anything about monetary donations?

It causes awareness, that's something.

[13511]

Did any of that happen in the 20th century?

And here you only support the point I was making... doesn't matter if it "happened in the 20th century. The fact is that it DID happen after our founding. The simple fact is that the right that was valid then is STILL valid. Sorry that you may be willing to give up your rights, but many are not. They recognize the reasoning of the 2nd amendment, and it had nothing to do with hunting. It had to do with guaranteeing the people an alternative method of redress if their government got out of hand and the people needed to take it back forcibly (I realize that one word scares you).

In fact, you seem oblivious to the events surrounding 01/06/2021 when a certain politico was doing his best to usurp our very democracy. THAT type of behavior is what the second is actually designed to allow some protections against. And the simple fact remains, the MAJORITY of the military will support citizens rights, not march to the "government drummer" just because they are told to. They are not, and never have been automatons, which is something the liberal left likes to imply.

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[13511]

@Sheldon and [uSER=21]@tracy perry[/uSER] would either of you purchase products or services from companies that support stronger gun control laws?

If it's a product I need/want, sure. I don't let their politics determine whether I purchase something from someone, I let my need decide that.

In fact, you can't get much stronger than "gun control" than China (actually Hong Kong, but same type restrictions on firearms)... and yet I'll still buy Milwaukee tools (although I do prefer my DeWalt tools).

I'll still go into Starbucks and grab a coffee if I'm not in my home town (prefer Coffee & Cream, their breve is fantastic).

I still have my Citibank accounts.

I still use PayPal.

I sill shop at Krogers, Albertsons, Walgreens and CVS and grab a bite at Sonic every now and then.

I still get Wired magazine.

I still watch movies associated with Bad Robot.

 

Now, I won't support someone like Impossible Foods... but that's simply because I want my burger to be beef/bison at the least.

And no, don't use (and won't use) Uber, for other reasons than their position on gun control.

I don't (and haven't in over 40 years) worn Levi's, and have no plans to. Wrangler Rugged Wear work better for my lifestyle.

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[13511]

Here, Paul, since you like to post "songs"...

 

[13511]

[Paul]

“The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”

-Albert Einstein

[Sheldon]

@Sheldon and [uSER=21]@tracy perry[/uSER] would either of you purchase products or services from companies that support stronger gun control laws?

 

I don't do boycotts.

 

They are pointless.

[Sheldon]

“The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”

-Albert Einstein

 

Correct.

 

So arm yourself.

[Paul]

I literally laughed out loud at every person who was hit the face by their gun. These people aren't the exception.

 

[13511]

“The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”

-Albert Einstein

Yep... this statement simply reinforces the point that until they can do something to control the problem (which is not the object, but the lack of doing anything about those "evil people") then you will continue to have a problem.

 

Let's see.... in 2020, 3% (408) of the murders (13,620 total for the year) that occurred were with those "evil assault weapons".

Meanwhile, there were 11,654 people killed in DWI related accidents in 2020, 10,142 in 2019. Guess we also need to work on banning alcohol and vehicles from private ownership.

Oh, we also need to ban cell phones... you see, it's estimated that 400 people a year die from them being used in automobiles.

Shit, we need to ban ladders also, on average 300 people die a year from falls from them (not to mention the 500K+ treated injuries). *stats per the CDC

Oh lord, we better ban bicycles... on average 100 children are killed a year on them.

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[Paul]

If it's a product I need/want, sure. I don't let their politics determine whether I purchase something from someone, I let my need decide that.

I don't do boycotts.

 

They are pointless.

I'm completely unsurprised.

[13511]

I'm completely unsurprised.

And what surprises you... I guess you are into "punishing" people for opinions/positions that you don't agree with? Sounds rather childish to me, but I've found that most liberals trend that way. Meanwhile, we adults will continue onward with our choice to allow folks to believe what they want and it not impact our life.

Got yourself a man bun?

[Paul]

Let's see.... in 2020, 3% (408) of the murders (13,620 total for the year) that occurred were with those "evil assault weapons".

Stop lying to yourself, Tracy. There needs to be stronger gun laws or an outright ban because of the number of deaths guns have caused, in the year 2020 that number was 45,222 people in the U.S.

 

When other products are shown to be a danger things are done to make them safer, that doesn't happen with guns. Are you willing to treat guns like other products?

 

Meanwhile, there were 11,654 people killed in DWI related accidents in 2020, 10,142 in 2019.

DWI laws in this country are a joke.

[Paul]

And what surprises you...

I would be surprised if you didn't put your selfish needs before the good of everyone else, the same goes for Sheldon.

 

Got yourself a man bun?

You've got me all figured out.

[13511]

Stop lying to yourself, Tracy. There needs to be stronger gun laws or an outright ban because of the number of deaths guns have caused, in the year 2020 that number was 45,222 people in the U.S.

Really? How many of those "gun deaths" were by the hands of other parties (you should be able to answer that, as I GAVE you the answer already)... you see, a suicidal individual will use other means if they can't get a gun... and even though you may try to deny it, studies show otherwise. If one is intent on committing suicide, one will use whatever means are at hand.

 

Now, vehicles killed 42,915 in 2021. By your arguments, we should ban vehicles also if you are going to push to do so based simply upon number of deaths associated with an object.

 

Novel idea... how about prohibiting those that are at highest risk of suicide from having firearms... you know, non-Hispanic American Indian/Alaska Native and non-Hispanic White populations, young people who identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual, veterans, those that work in mining or construction... you see, the federal government says they are ALL at higher risk of suicide than a heterosexual white male or female. So you wouldn't have any issues in prohibiting those in that "susceptible group" from owning a firearm, all in the understanding "it's for their own good"?

 

And hate to burst your utopian bubble that you live in... but

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Now, explain to us why there were a WHOLE 3 "mass shooting incidents" in 2000, but in 2020 it increased to 40? Do you posit that suddenly the gun manufacturers were making "more vicious" guns? That they were making "more guns"?

Or could the REAL fact be that the actual PEOPLE have changed... and much of that "change" was for the worse as we became more "liberal" and "open" in the raising of children and the lack of holding them to any responsibility or accountability? You know, the very same people that get offended because in sports some kids are rewarded for their excellence, but not everyone... so then you had to start giving "participation awards", instead of teaching the kids that some people excel at certain things and others don't... and to try and find something that you excel at.

[13511]

I would be surprised if you didn't put your selfish needs before the good of everyone else, the same goes for Sheldon.

Yep... will always place the needs of my family and myself in front of others. Do you deny that you do the same?

Why should I place the needs of some lazy-ass that refuses to work over my family? Whether they (or you) want to admit it, there ARE jobs out there.... do they pay what they person thinks they are worth? Rarely... but rarely is the person actually worth what they think they are either.

 

You've got me all figured out.

Legitimate question... do you sport a man bun?

Just wondering, because many that do have a belief in their superiority over others.

[Paul]

Legitimate question... do you sport a man bun?

Just wondering, because many that do have a belief in their superiority over others.

There isn’t a hair on my head that is over 2 inches long.

 

You couldn’t be more wrong about who you think I am. I’m not going to give too much away because I like that Gary thinks I work in a warehouse.

[Paul]

I will say this though: right after I graduated from high school in 1987 I worked for the largest meat processing plant in California for a little while. After I got my CDL I worked for the 2nd largest poultry farm in California for about 6 years.

 

If you don’t care about the growth hormones (which are banned in the EU) that they feed the animals you eat, and your increased chances of getting colon cancer, there’s probably little chance that you care about the meat industry fucking up the environment and fucking over people in lesser developed countries.

 

BTW, did you know they feed chicken shit to dairy cows because it’s high in protein? I know that and still consume dairy products anyway.

 

And they make industrial soap from the chickens that are culled out.

[13511]

There isn’t a hair on my head that is over 2 inches long.

 

You couldn’t be more wrong about who you think I am. I’m not going to give too much away because I like that Gary thinks I work in a warehouse.

Did I claim you did wear a man bun? I'm simply asking as many of your cries that you outpour are typical of those that do.

 

And as for soap... you do realize that or centuries (in fact, as far back as 2800BC) soap has used fat (or oil, but usually fat) and lye for its manufacture, right? You act like it's a "new thing".

And you do realize that they also feed "scraps" from beef production to chickens, right? And again, for centuries, chickens that were raised on farms with cattle would eat out of the cow offal. It may sound "nasty" (surprise, letting how something "sounds" affect impact you instead of letting facts do so), but has gone on for centuries.

Also, from my understanding, use of growth hormones and/or steroids have been illegal in the commercial chicken industry in the U.S. since the 1950's.

https://thehumaneleague.org/article/chicken-on-steroids

So, care to continue to educate us on how chickens are grown in the U.S. poultry farms from a truck drivers extensive experience in the raising, culling and processing of chickens?

BTW, within the area where I reside, we have a noticeable footprint by Sanderson Farms, from granaries, poultry "farms" and processing (in fact, Texas was 2nd in the nation for commercial chicken production).

 

[Paul]

Also, from my understanding, use of growth hormones and/or steroids have been illegal in the commercial chicken industry in the U.S. since the 1950's.

I don't know how long it's been illegal to bury 55 gallon drums of formaldehyde but the poultry farm that I worked for did it. People who are motivated by profit don't always follow laws. Growth hormones are still legal to be fed to cattle, BTW.

 

I'm sure it won't change your mind about eating chicken but you should read the rest of the article that you linked to.